Re: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami

 

The comment like this is not comming from an educated man but a man sitting in a pan shop in lyari. Or have a different mind set secular. Those who are at the helm of affairs know the best, doing the best although one has option to disagree. We people of Karachi never voted PPP since the creation of this universe. Who are bring them again and again should be taught properly.


From: Abdul Munam <amunam@hotmail.com>
To: ethad-e-islami@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rahimsa@yahoo.com; cocosaif10@yahoo.com
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 9:00:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami


Also include MULLAH into the list, who had divided the Muslims into different groups. Not only Pakistan's army but all the Muslims countries' army. Examples.....Jordan against Palestine not against Israel, Sadam Hussain (Iraq) against Iran and Kuwait and then KURUD, now Libya against own people never against Israel, Saudi Arab against own people and Bahrain never against Israel.........list is very long my friends! and unfortunately in all of the above mentions example so called self declared "ULMAEY HAQ" Mulla were and are supporting the governments on the name of Islam. If you all have forgotten then for refreshing your memories,. when Pakistan Army were doing operation against Muslims of East Pakistan and your so-called "AMEERUL-MOOMANEE"  Zia-ul-Haq slaughtering the Plastine's Muslim (helping Jordanian Government) then all religious and so called MULLAH were supporting the army. Now in the current situation they are out of the equation in collecting "MAAL-E-GHANEEMAT", therefore they are strongly against the army specially in Pakistan.

To: Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com
CC: rahimsa@yahoo.com
From: furqanhassan14@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:56:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami

 
JazakAllah Saifuddin
 
 
secondly Syed Rahim sahab
 
Pakistan is powerful??? where is that power..while your brothers , childeren , sisters are being killed by Dronz.....even by PAK &USA ARMY
Where were that power when your sister and brothers were handed over to USA.
Where was that power when an american killed your brothers.and if you are kneeling down to you enemy because of that someone will eat you then where is the power you have...Pakistan is even less powerfull than AFGHANISTAN
 
I agree pakistan is powerfull because she is being looted by her generals polititians and beaurucrates and still surviving.
 
A bitter truth after 1965 Pakistan army ki talwar jab bhi uthi apno k khilaf hi uthai.
 
 
AND NOTE THERE IS NO COMPARISION BETWEEN MADINA AND PAKISTAN..OK...SO DON'T TALK BULSHIT.

--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Syed Saifuddin <cocosaif10@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Syed Saifuddin <cocosaif10@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami
To: "Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com" <Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Syed Rahim" <rahimsa@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 9:53 AM

 
salam alikum dear brother
first of all i am sorry if i hurted your feelings for pakistan.
but i just couldnt control myself when i was writing below email because giving away USA agent was the most shameful act as a muslim 'Quam' for pakistan.
 
brother i would like to tell you, i am indian but why i am intrested in pakistani piolitics, because i really care for pakistan, it was created in the name of Islam, but tell me frankly brother, where is Islaam in pakistan today.
 
you think only praying 5 times is islam, or going for hajj, or praying nawafil, taraweeh is only islaam. does not amr bil maroof nahi anil munkar part of Islaam. 
if it is, then why there is munkar in pakistan if pak is islamic country. 
 
also, permission for praying, going for hajj, doing tableegh is also in USA, but does that make USA islamic country.  
 
Rasoolallah (sallaluhu-alaihi-wasalm) made agreement with Jews but AFTER establishing SHARIA in madina-mubarakkah. madinah alhumdullila was the first Islamic country in the world where nothing was done against Quran & Sunnah. Does your pakistan qualify this rule.
 
if it does, then alhumdullialh long live paksitan but if it doesnt, then pls note below poetry
 
Agar Islam ki hawa tujhe raaz na aaye
To aye mere Watan, tujhe koi Aag lagaye.
 
please, listen to me. i am a muslim. my first obligation / duty as muslim is that i must submit my 'will' to Allah. 'Will' means that i will listen & obey to him in every thing.
then second duty is dawah/tableegh. then third duty is Iqamat-Deen. establish Deen/shariah . if we dont do this , then we are not qualified to be momin in the eyes of Allah.
 
so please open your eyes and realize that we are in this world as the Khalifa of Allah. we have come to establish sharia NOT make dams, pulls, cars , buildings, or nuclear bomb and forget our actual duty of establishing shariah.
 
i hope this argument of mine will suffice.
May Allah (subhana wata ala) give us Hidaya and correct understanding of our Deen and May Allah make us of the Mujahideen-fi-sabeelillah. (ameen, ya-rabbal-alameen).
 
jazakallah khair.
 
From: Syed Rahim <rahimsa@yahoo.com>
To: Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com
Cc: cocosaif10@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami

We will be accountable to each and every words in the day of judgement. If anyone has proof that Gen Kiani has taken money he should produce evidence. Otherwise he will be asked to produce before Allah Jalashanuh. Secondly Rasoolullah Sallaho alaihe wassallam has forbidden to say 'LANNAT'. Those who blame army should know that Pakistan is surrounded by enemies who are ready to eat us for no other reason but one that 'Pakistan is the only country which is powerful in Islamic world'. Iraq very powerful destroyed, Afghanistan no more powerful, Libya is the third target.  When there are many enemies what to do? Rasoolullah Sallaho alaihe wassallam himsef made agreement with jews of Madina during battle of Khandaq (although they betrayed). We are in danger every moment. Pakistan has similary with Madina of that time. We have enemies surrounding us, inside Munafeqeen (I am not naming any particular party of group).
 
Alahmdo Lillah the work of Dawa is flourishing in Pakistan, many jamaats are going round the world for tabligh, this also has similarity with Madina. Army generals attend Ijtimahs and pray five times, most of them.
 
Militancy is also a real crime in real sense. Alahmdo Lillah armed forces are dealing with them very quietly and amicalbly. Militants look Pakistani and Muslim but are gents of Jews and India. Wiping them out is the only solution. Sawat is one of the best example.
 
How they are managing, how much compromising, what stand they take at critical moments, are only known to those who are at the helm of affairs.
 
Pakistan progressed at the time of Ayub Khan, Dams and development of East Pakistan, Gen. Zia Rahmatullah Alaihe did a lot of efforts for Islamic implementation. Great Musharraf developed Pakistan and took a very good decision after 9/11.
 
In my opinion Kiani is also serving very amicably. Everything is not disclosed but what one can feel that Pakistan is in safe hand and Islamic values are intact.
 
Now is the time for politicians to use their wisedom and serve the nation forgetting the past that happened. For us is one most important job that is praying for the only country created in the name of Islam.
 
Jazakum Allaho Khairan 

From: Khan Jee <khanalim313@yahoo.com>
To: Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com
Cc: cocosaif10@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 1:46:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami

 
Excellent analysis brother

From: Syed Saifuddin <cocosaif10@yahoo.com>
To: "Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com" <Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 10:44:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami

 
salam alaikum ..
Real Lanaat on Gen. Kayani and Zardaari and all others who were in this shameful act.
but equally the pakistani nation is also responsible for allowing such bastards to sit on their heads.
seeing the change in tunis & egypt, pakistan should also follow.
but not only puppet change, real islamic revolution.
May Allah (azza wa jal) give us all the courage for standing up. (ameen).

From: Billo Raja <rajabillo@hotmail.com>
To: ethad-e-islami@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami

 
 
Dear Brothers,
 
From 1953 till today Pakistan has been under rule / influence of Army. Our country is money making machine for corrupt Generals / Rulers. They will leave no stone unturned and will do anything to make Money. It may be Afghanistan,Kashmir or anything. General Kiyani only accepted his Haq
 
OUR COUNTRY NEEDS PROPELS REVOLUTION
 
 

 
To: Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com
From: international.professor@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:11:47 +0000
Subject: [Ethad-e-Islami] Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islami



Gen. Kiyani made millions on Raymond Davis at Muscat, Gen. Zia introduced Islamic Laws are honoured by PPP.
By: International Professor
Raymond David has been set free as expected and Gen Kiyani and Gen Pasha have played central role in his release. ISI high jacked the courts, lawyers and relatives of the victims. Hillary Clinton says that U.S. has not paid any money to seek indemnity with the family of the victims soon after release of Raymond Davis.
There is no doubt that Gen. Kiyani is defecto Chairman of Pakistan and Gen. Pasha is the first lady of Pakistan, and everything happening in Pakistan is at the sole discretion of mercenary army generals. Democracy, parliament, constitution, courts and government have no power to disobey orders of Kiyani, Pasha and other generals. Our optimism about Pakistani courts and Chief Justice has also been drowned with the current strained decision of Lahore High Courts.
Following media reports are witness that hands of General Kiyani are soaked in release of Raymond Davis, and Generals of Pakistan army have made millions on the name of his release. Many scholars at Rawalpindi and Islamabad have firm belief that since transfer of money to Swiss banks has become dangerous task, so our political and army elite believes on cash bribes and most money is transferred via VVIP jets, and Kiyani and other generals were bribed in cash at Muscat.
In support of their claims within hours media disclosed that Raja Irshad Kiyani, an advocate of Supreme Courts who earlier had no links to Raymond Davis case was leading in today's suspicious and secretive affairs. Raja Irshad is a known front man of Gen. Kiyani and Gen. Shuja Pasha, and belongs to same ancestral area of Kiyani, some peoples disclosed that he is relative of Gen. Kiyani, and described distribution of Rs. 220 million by the hands of Irshad Kiyani clearly shows his links with Gen. Kiyani and Gen. Shuja Pasha in handling of this case. Moreover this is the same advocate that appeared in Supreme Courts when Judges were going to deliver their verdict and eleven missing person were found in the custody of ISI.
Secondly as it is well known that Gen. Kiyani has the notoriety of harbouring corrupt politicians and he has swept almost US$ 20 billion. His extension in service along with Pasha clearly shows that he is part of Zardari and Gilani's corruption mafia.
Everyone knows that current at least 20 top generals, air force chief and naval chief is on pay role of CIA and Pakistan Air force arranged in departure of Raymond Davis out of Pakistan. First read the following report:
15-03-2011: Breakthrough likely in ISI-CIA talks
ISLAMABAD: The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) are close to a reset in their knotty relations, with behind-the-scene negotiations reportedly making progress. A breakthrough is likely in days ahead.
An end to the feud will not only help resolve the dispute over immunity for jailed CIA operative Raymond Davis but also help both countries overcome the hard patch in their ties.
"There are some positive developments in ongoing negotiations," a security official told Dawn on Monday without specifying how much ground the two sides had covered. He, however, said both sides were `grudgingly accommodating each other' to save the overall bilateral relationship.
Though there are hardly any evident markers to judge progress in dialogue on affairs of spy agencies, US Embassy's reaction to the Lahore High Court (LHC) avoiding a ruling on immunity for Davis was quite telling.US Embassy Spokesman Alberto Rodriguez, in a very brief comment, said: "US position is well known and we are working with Pakistani authorities to resolve the issue."
His reaction definitely contrasted that of Ambassador Cameron Munter after the previous hearing in the case by the LHC (Feb 17), when he said: "The United States is disappointed that the government of Pakistan did not certify that Raymond Davis has diplomatic immunity".
The immunity dispute quite expectedly remained unresolved in the LHC because Davis is no more central to this controversy, which has been overtaken by other matters pertaining to the problematic Pakistan-US security cooperation whose bedrock is the collaboration between ISI and CIA.
The Davis episode was just the latest manifestation of the disquiet in the relations between the agencies that had been going on for some time and had found varying expressions, be it the frequent CIA allegations of Pakistanis patronising jihadi groups and being insincere in fight against extremists or filing of a law suit in a New York court by relatives of Mumbai carnage against ISI chief or blowing the cover of CIA's Islamabad station head Jonathan Banks, leading to his recall.
Notwithstanding what face this friction in ties got from time to time, US officials confirm that there had been divergences over strategic interests and timing of anti-militancy operations—a reference to Pakistan military's reluctance to go after the North Waziristan-based Haqqani network.
As the situation reached the tipping point and both the agencies engaged in an ugly public spat, ISI sought a redefinition of its terms of engagement with CIA. ISI's litany of complaints against CIA included the American agency developing its own network of undeclared spies and disregarding ISI as an institution and sacrifices of its personnel.
The progress in negotiations achieved so far, a source said, was made possible because of cool heads on both sides, who realised that keeping the ISI-CIA relationship intact was in the interest of both the agencies.
Analysts believe the outcome of the dialogue was crucial for settling the row over immunity for Davis.
Qisas o Deet (Immunity) Laws:
Today Peoples Party is trying to honour Gen. Zia made Islamic Qisas o Deet laws, is it not hypocrisy? When Fauzia Wahab was hired by CIA and ISI to plead Raymond Davis case she was sent out of sight. Zardari and Nawaz Shariff are behind ISI in all such activity. Shahbaz Shariff and Gilani slipped out of country while army was managing release of Raymond Davis. Heart attack of Nawaz Shariff is a drama and try to defuse anger of peoples. After severe heart attack would he still be candidate of Prime Minister?
Shame on Chief Justice High Courts Lahore:
Current chief justice of High court Lahore is a corrupt person and his direct involvement in breaking the laws is shocking, it means everyone in elite category was known for selling his mother and now judiciary has joined the race.
Joy of PPP, PML N and Liberal Fascists:
According to many leaders of PPP and PML N release of Raymond Davis is a moment of joy for them as reported by media? Some PPP's leaders are saying it is a slap on the faces of those Pakistani's who were considering Raymond as terrorist.
Conclusion:
Release of Raymond has clearly exposed true face of army generals, Zardari mafia and Nawaz Shariff Company. It has left alone chief justice and would be a question mark on the integrity of Judges. It is proved that Islamic laws introduced by Gen. Zia were legitimate and now neither liberal fascists nor PPP has any mouth to reject those laws.
Shame on Pakistan army, Zardari, Gilani, Nawaz Shariff and Shahbaz Shariff for defaming pride of Pakistan and proving that Pakistani's can sell their mothers for money.
Some related media reports:
 
27-02-2011: Oman: COAS Kiyani meets US military leadership
 
Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, held a meeting with Muscat and US military leadership in Oman to discuss regional security issues and explore new ways to better coordinate military operations.
The meeting was attended by US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen; US Central Command Commander, General James Mattis; US Special Operations Command Commander, Admiral Eric Olson and General David Petraeus, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan.
 
 The two sides provided operational updates and also discussed the need for greater infrastructure development, cross-border communication and information sharing. COAS Kayani said that Pakistan s soldiers fought bravely and accomplished much at great cost.
 
24-02-11: Kiyani at muscat
MUSCAT: Top military commanders from the US and Pakistan held talks in the Gulf on Wednesday in what Islamabad called a move to coordinate better the war against the Taliban and al Qaeda on the Afghan border.Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff Gen Ashfaq Kayani met in Oman's capital Muscat. The Express Tribune, February 24th, 2011.
23-02-2011: Pak, US military leadership discusses regional security issues
MUSCAT: Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani on Wednesday met with the top military leadership of United States to discuss regional security issues and explore new ways to better coordinate military operations.The meeting was attended by US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen; US Central Command Commander, General James Mattis; US Special Operations Command Commander, Admiral Eric Olson and General David Petraeus, the commander of Nato forces in Afghanistan.
The two sides, during the meeting, provided operational updates and discussed the need for greater infrastructure development, cross-border communication and information sharing. "I was pleased to have the opportunity to discuss with American officers the progress we have made fighting extremists in our country and to offer them my thoughts about how two sides might better cooperate", said Kayani. General Kayani also held a meeting with the Chief of Staff of Sultan's Armed Forces.
February 23, 2011: South Asian News Agency (SANA) â‹… MUSCAT, (SANA): Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has held a meeting with the Chief of Staff of Sultan's Armed Forces on Wednesday. The meeting was attended by US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen; US Central Command Commander, General James Mattis; US Special Operations Command Commander, Admiral Eric Olson and General David Petraeus, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan.
Accompanying General Kayani was Major General Javed Iqbal, Director General of Military Operations and Brigadier Muhammad Saeed.
Both two sides provided operational updates and also discussed the need for greater infrastructure development, cross-border communication and information sharing.
Though American commanders consult frequently with General Kayani, this was only the third time they have gathered together in this manner, since August 2008.
And
 
 
 
 












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